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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist Among Us and

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sometimes they win even the devil was an

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angel once the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of Cryptids in The

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Unexplained

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join us as we venture beyond the known

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and accepted boundaries Welcome to our

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nightmare I think you're going to like

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[Music]

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of phantoms and monsters

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explained I'm your host Lon Stricker and

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so my guest tonight is Mr Sam Sheeran

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who is a British dark artist and

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specializes in horror and science

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fiction

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his work often includes elements

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inspired by vintage Tales of monsters

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badmin dark figures post to apocalyptic

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genres including cyberpunk and

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literature

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Sam's main influence stem from ancient

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cultures the occult industrial art

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uh Sam has created covers for comic

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books and graphic novels as well as

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album sleeve artwork and merchandise

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designs for some of the biggest name in

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rock metal and Industrial Music

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same is also known for his cryptozoology

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and magazines you can find and purchase

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Sam's artwork at

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mrsamshearn.com so Sam thanks for coming

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on the show tonight and I don't think we

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have him in here yet

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so we're gonna have to Wing this for a

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bit

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anyway

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I guess we're trying to get him

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he's coming hi anyway

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uh and I was late getting here too I I

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popped in here about five minutes before

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and I fell asleep and

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so I knew it was I knew how it feels

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like anyway I I know eventually was

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flipping out I heard the phone ring and

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so I'm watching him now trying to get

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one minute okay I get you

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so there he is

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hey hey

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real quick

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what's going on here

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Sam you can hear me I'm gonna bring you

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back in here in just a second I think

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you're running a little hot I'm gonna

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I gotta love live radio

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that's good

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well Sam uh you know I I didn't realize

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how many different

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uh uh music artists and so forth you

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have done artwork for it can you kind of

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list some of the people and some of the

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folks and and groups that you've worked

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and I lost him again

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like I I can't hear you saying oh there

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you are come back yeah you are

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whatever you said so whatever you said

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say it again yeah I was just saying

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um it's been uh

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it's been too long uh who have I worked

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with wow

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that is a list we could go on for a

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while with

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I've done a lot of artwork for bands and

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musicians solo artists and and majorly

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Rock and metal groups right but they

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include Rob Zombie and Slayer and

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Ramstein a maiden filter Jason Charles

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Miller who's formerly of godhead

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um American head charge Ministry

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um I mean him comment 5000 uh

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so many it just goes on and on but I've

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also done a lot of comic books

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um

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and of course I've directed animations

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for Clive Barker and for Stan Lee's

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company

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um and I've done cover artworks for the

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X-Files I mean yeah I've sort of have my

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fingers in a lot of Pies over the last

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foreign

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sounds fine to me

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I I'm not sure where the interference is

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coming

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I'm gonna I'm gonna try to uh

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how about another one now

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yeah

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every time we bring Sam in it gets it

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yeah I don't I don't know what exactly

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that is

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um you can hear me fine and every time I

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bring Sam in for some reason this

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Crossing damn I know you can hear us

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right now if there's any way you can

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unplug your mic and plug it back in and

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then I'll bring you back in I think

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there's something weird going on with

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the uh

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to Mike and kind of making a feed Loop

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so we'll see if that works sorry about

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Sam are you still here

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let's start Vincent

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Vince

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he's calling

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Vincent can you hear me

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yeah it's Sam it's Sam's mic for sure I

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I don't know how to uh

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fix the issue here

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because I can hear you you can hear me

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fine

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um every time I undo his mic the

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feedback loop starts I'm not I'm not

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sure what that is I haven't come across

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this yet

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so

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it's funny because I don't have

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yeah this open anywhere else we're gonna

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for now

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we're gonna we're gonna We're not gonna

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do this

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I don't know with with that Sam I'm so

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sorry

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um

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unless there was a different way to set

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like could you go mikeless could you

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pull the mic and just go from like your

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phone or or a different connection and

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thank you

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foreign

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one second folks we're going to be

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working this will just take me one

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then

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foreign

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thank you

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go ahead and talk

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can can you choose a different mic input

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on your on your input setting on the

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stream yard

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when you when you first when you come in

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the studio you can choose your your mic

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sorry folks live radio at its finest

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we're working on it right now and we'll

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see what we can get done for you guys

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he's got a lot of really cool art to

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show so I do apologize about the delay

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he's going to try to do something else

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real quick and if we can't get it going

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we'll uh

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probably call it and we'll just see you

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back here on a paranormal life here

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at 10 pm CST but let me try one more

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oh

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foreign

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yeah I can hear you it just wasn't so

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no it's TV webcam microphone

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oh I see I can I can hear you so hold on

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one sec I'm gonna turn you up on my end

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go ahead and talk

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hello

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mean am I sound is my sound coming

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through

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yep you're good

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okay I'll tell you what we're gonna do

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we're gonna start from the very

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beginning

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haha start over guys just kidding one

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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist Among Us and

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sometimes they win even the devil was an

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angel once the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of Cryptids in The

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Unexplained

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join us as we venture beyond the known

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and accepted boundaries Welcome to our

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nightmare I think you're going to like

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of phantoms and monsters

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radio where we explore the strange The

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Unexplained I'm your host Lon Stricker

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appreciated so tonight I'm joined by Mr

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Sam Sheeran who is a British dark artist

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who specializes in R and science fiction

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his work office often includes elements

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inspired by vintage Tales of monsters

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and Mad Men dark figures post a pop

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ecliptic genres including super Punk and

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Industrial wastelands and classic

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literature

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Sam's main influence stems from ancient

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cultures the occult industrial art

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Revolution eras the supernatural the

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Paranormal cryptozoology and The

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Unexplained

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Sam has created covers for comic books

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and graphic novels as well as album

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sleeve or at work and merchandise

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designs for some of the biggest names in

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rock metal Industrial Music

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Sam is also known for his cryptozoology

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art in uh Forma book covers prints and

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magazines and you can find and purchase

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Sam's artwork at

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mrsamsherron.com so Sam thanks for

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good evening uh-huh we got things fixed

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hopefully the second time's the charm

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yes this little uh Delight on mind but

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uh we are finally here doing that great

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what was going on with the microphone

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man but uh some kind of people like but

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we're we're here it's good to finally

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meet you long it's been uh years I've

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been following the distance

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you know what this is the first time

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that we've actually talked to each other

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and uh I I you know I have you know what

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I when I first was introduced to your

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work was seeing

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um David where the Lee's book covers

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interview David I used to comment on on

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the artwork and he said oh yeah that's

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Sam you know so yeah so last year when

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when you put out your Christmas cards I

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had to get some because they were so

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great and of course I went and bought

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some more again this year and uh I also

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bought some prints and as you can see

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behind me

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uh we're kind of getting a collection of

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these things

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and uh I love them I mean just you know

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of course you did your artwork for the

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Chicago Mothman uh creature and uh those

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are great and I I got the the print from

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um

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from Seth Breedlove when the film came

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out and then uh I I ordered some things

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for me and you were kind enough to send

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a few more and

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and I the one I drew it the one I really

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liked the most is the uh the Edgar Allan

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Poe print which I think is fantastic

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because I used to live near Baltimore

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for a long time and of course we're all

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uh with the Ravens football team and the

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whole lore and it's it's just great so

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absolutely I I've been a fan for a long

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time

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though I really appreciate that and uh

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thanks for picking up the Christmas

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cards every year uh it really means the

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world it's um that's awesome that you

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did that I'm always tickled when I see

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your name in there uh that you've made a

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little order so by all means more than

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happy to give you more points

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um as a thank you well I appreciate

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appreciate that

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um so Sam disturbing again how did you

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get involved how did you start

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wanting to do artwork it must be

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something you start as a child right oh

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yeah I mean there's no

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there's no sort of beginning it's one of

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those um questions that sort of pops up

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every every so often and has always sort

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of rephrased in a certain way but

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there's really no way

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to pinpoint a beginning

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um of when I decided to I don't think I

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decided to

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start artwork or get into art okay as

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you say it's more of an organic thing

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just getting older from childhood you

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start to you know you lay on your belly

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on the floor as a child watching

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television and it's either Jason and the

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Argonauts sorts Masters of the Universe

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or

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um you know dinosaur movies one million

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years we see that kind of thing

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um back in the day when there were only

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four channels on TV in England

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so all those kind of influences Godzilla

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and anything to do with you know even

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The Dark Crystal and the Muppet Show and

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that kind of stuff really got me

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interested in in just monsters in

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general

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um but I think it was Natural History

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and growing up in England and visiting

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the museums in England really got me

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um just absolutely enamored with

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monsters being real because when you

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sort of you know six or seven years old

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and you're standing underneath a giant

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dinosaur skeleton in a museum and you

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realize that these things are real then

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your imagination starts to go wild and

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all of a sudden Godzilla on the TV isn't

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as interesting as real monsters

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um and so I guess I just started to

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pursue that inside reading and

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collecting books on The Unexplained and

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far off long regions of the world which

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to me now on so far

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talking about the Redwoods and things

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like that you know I finally as a Brit

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came over to California and Washington

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and Oregon

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and the Redwoods when I was a child may

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as well have been on another planet but

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now I can visit them and look for real

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monsters so it's just another step

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another progression to illustrate them

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for books for people like David

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Weatherly and Ken God and others you

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know

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so it's a real passion though oh yeah

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yeah you I know you got quite a

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following and it's just it's just

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amazing and uh

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you know and I tell you I I mean really

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in full and thrilled by the uh the

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Christmas characters that you have done

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and uh all the lore involved with that

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and you're you're your interpretation of

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those characters it's amazing and uh

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folks I tell you if you got to go to

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mrsamsherron.com and look at some of

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what Sam has to offer because it's some

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really great stuff and of course

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I am waiting for my order to come and

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it'll be you know again I guess

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I don't even want to send them out be

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honest with you I want to keep them well

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it's funny people do collect them

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there's there's a number of people who

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always sort of buy a couple of packs

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because they want to keep them for

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themselves so that always tickles me you

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so um as as we talk Vince is going to be

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uh posting some of the pictures he

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provided of your your art and such

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um

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so as you have done this and has you

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researched I'm quite sure you've done a

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lot of research onto the characters that

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you've been involved you know that

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you've drawn uh

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how about do you have any strange

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stories for us and especially around the

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holidays uh has there anything that you

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really

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strange stories that maybe none of us

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don't even know about well

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um I mean that's that's such a huge

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question I've talked about this on a

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number of other podcasts

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um with Micah Hanks and and uh so I

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asked and stuff like that but

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it's sort of it's funny you know there's

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that kind of um a mindset where people

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say that children are more open to

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stranger things and I think the older

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you get you do tend to become more

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closed after things because you're more

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occupied with adults you know

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responsibilities and things and so

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you're not as um nothing's new to you so

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life seems to go quicker as well because

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everything's very familiar but as a

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child you're constantly learning and

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you're so open to everything I think we

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do notice things as kids more often so

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most of the strange things that have

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happened to me did happen to me when

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when I was or I witnessed them when I

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was a child

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um and it's

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you know now I'm I'm 44 years old and I

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still see the occasional UFO because I'm

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one of those people that will look for

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them I'll you know step outside and look

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at the sky waiting for a taxi or

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something

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um and so I'm I'm one of the people

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that's not with my head down looking at

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my phone like most people I'm the one

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looking in the sky so I'll always catch

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something

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um but generally speaking

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uh

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I mean it's it's more

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where do I begin ghosts is something

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that's always fascinated me since

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childhood

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um and I had an experience when I was

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seven

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um

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it's up to what can only be described as

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two small children

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um walking into my bedroom uh who I

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initially thought it was going to sound

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really strange I initially thought they

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were my own Uncle

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um but in the doorway

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because they had come to visit I'd been

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sent to bed early

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um I didn't want to go to bed I'd

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actually stayed up till about 10 but you

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know to me it was early I was wide awake

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I didn't want to go to bed my aunt Uncle

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were visiting and so in you know in the

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house at the time it's quite small I

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could hear the television downstairs so

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I was wide awake

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and then I sort of turned over

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and my uncle has stood in the doorway

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and I sat up because I was excited to

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sort of see them they were leaving early

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I wasn't going to be able to say goodbye

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in the morning kind of thing so he said

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oh it was great to see you thanks for

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the Dinosaur book you gave me

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um sleep well I'll see you next time and

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they didn't answer me they just stood in

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the doorway and that's when I realized

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that they were a lot shorter than they

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should have been

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and they started to walk into the room

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and when the light changed because the

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whole light was on so they were

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silhouette but when they went into the

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room I could I could see it was a boy

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and a girl and so I threw my pillow out

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then I screamed the house down

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um and I looked I just looked away I

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didn't want to look at them and so I

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looked up and there's a green Fireball

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I'd say I mean this just sounds

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absolutely ridiculous every time I tell

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00:27:02,029 --> 00:27:00,600
this story but it was a green soccer

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ball size

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ball of green fire and it was going

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around the ceiling in every corner of

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the room and every time I would look up

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at it it would fly down

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uh at me almost as though it was forcing

510
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me to look at the other children well

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speaking of creepy children what are the

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neighbors poltergeists

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um apologies if you can hear the noisy

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no I don't hear anything

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and the dog

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um and so yeah this was just baffling to

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me my mum ran upstairs

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she stopped

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grabbed me dragged me out the room to

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shut the door and um you know nothing

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was sort of talked about after that uh

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other than you know the next day my mom

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was saying you know you had a bad dream

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kind of thing and I don't know what was

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going on

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and it wasn't until a couple of years

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later when I brought it up and my mom

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doesn't like anything to do with ghosts

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and so she sort of just didn't want to

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talk about it and I was I was badgering

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her why and she said okay look we're not

532
00:28:10,430 --> 00:28:08,820
going to talk about this again but I'll

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say this and she said

534
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all I know is there was something going

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on in your room that I didn't understand

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and I just knew I had to get you out of

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there

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um and to this day she won't talk about

539
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:23,580
it after that past that you know wow

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um and shortly after you know we moved

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house

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00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:29,880
um for the north but uh that really

543
00:28:33,710 --> 00:28:31,919
kicked off to me

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00:28:37,070 --> 00:28:33,720
aside from a number of other strange

545
00:28:39,230 --> 00:28:37,080
occurrences in that home

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00:28:41,690 --> 00:28:39,240
um just a creepy Vibe and we lived on

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the edge of the forest where hundreds of

548
00:28:48,110 --> 00:28:44,820
years prior people were hung and it was

549
00:28:50,750 --> 00:28:48,120
the town was called Murder Shore I mean

550
00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:50,760
it sort of speaks for itself but um

551
00:28:54,110 --> 00:28:52,140
there was certainly something strange

552
00:28:55,970 --> 00:28:54,120
going there they found a stagnant pond

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in the forest

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um that we were always warned as

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00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:59,220
children to not go near because it was

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00:29:03,890 --> 00:29:00,720
it was like quicksand you know the old

557
00:29:06,110 --> 00:29:03,900
Tarzan movies that you would see this

558
00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:06,120
was a real fear there was a bog that

559
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,820
absolutely stank and one year they

560
00:29:12,350 --> 00:29:10,559
drained it and they found hundreds of

561
00:29:14,330 --> 00:29:12,360
skeletons of all kinds of pets and

562
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,340
animals that had gone missing and who

563
00:29:19,310 --> 00:29:17,279
knows why so um it was a strange town

564
00:29:21,769 --> 00:29:19,320
that I grew up in

565
00:29:24,529 --> 00:29:21,779
um but I left there when I was 10.

566
00:29:26,690 --> 00:29:24,539
so

567
00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:26,700
yeah I mean that's that really kicked

568
00:29:29,930 --> 00:29:28,140
off my interest in The Unexplained

569
00:29:31,789 --> 00:29:29,940
because to me that that happened that

570
00:29:34,130 --> 00:29:31,799
was real and I you know I wanted to know

571
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:34,140
what was going on and to this day I've

572
00:29:38,690 --> 00:29:36,000
not found

573
00:29:41,690 --> 00:29:38,700
aside from Green Fireballs in the sky as

574
00:29:44,330 --> 00:29:41,700
UFOs I I've never found a ghost story

575
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,340
that I can really match it with to

576
00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:46,559
explain what was going on if it even was

577
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:49,500
ghosts I mean I have no idea exactly

578
00:29:54,590 --> 00:29:52,260
what was happening but it happened

579
00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:54,600
it's interesting

580
00:30:00,529 --> 00:29:56,399
um

581
00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:00,539
you know I I I I guess you had a very uh

582
00:30:04,730 --> 00:30:03,779
very wide imagination as a child

583
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:04,740
um

584
00:30:08,990 --> 00:30:07,440
yeah you know I kind of the thing I kind

585
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:09,000
of think about it was a kind of a

586
00:30:13,549 --> 00:30:10,620
thought form thing that kind of popped

587
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:13,559
up or maybe it was maybe it was a spirit

588
00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:16,140
of your aunt and uncle I don't know you

589
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:17,220
know maybe it was something you

590
00:30:21,049 --> 00:30:20,159
projected maybe yeah maybe I manifested

591
00:30:22,010 --> 00:30:21,059
it

592
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:22,020
um yeah

593
00:30:26,210 --> 00:30:23,760
so it was strange

594
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:26,220
um I mean I remember them wearing

595
00:30:30,289 --> 00:30:29,039
frilly clothes described at the time to

596
00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:30,299
my mom

597
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:35,640
said at the time you know there's no way

598
00:30:39,169 --> 00:30:36,960
he could have known

599
00:30:40,909 --> 00:30:39,179
what they would be wearing you know

600
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:40,919
Victorian clothes that you could maybe

601
00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:42,000
guess

602
00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:44,760
or just plug it as Knickerbockers and

603
00:30:50,690 --> 00:30:48,360
Philly clothing very strange creepy

604
00:30:52,909 --> 00:30:50,700
perhaps I'll paint it one day get around

605
00:30:55,130 --> 00:30:52,919
to it yeah that would be cool I mean I'd

606
00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:55,140
love to see that

607
00:31:00,049 --> 00:30:57,240
yeah interesting hopefully uh it won't

608
00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:00,059
open the door again maybe

609
00:31:06,169 --> 00:31:03,720
invite them down you know

610
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:06,179
other than that

611
00:31:09,769 --> 00:31:08,460
experiences that you you know that you

612
00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:09,779
can talk about

613
00:31:16,730 --> 00:31:10,980
um

614
00:31:19,070 --> 00:31:16,740
let's say strange insects

615
00:31:21,789 --> 00:31:19,080
um and that just sounds boring on the

616
00:31:25,549 --> 00:31:21,799
face value of strange insects but um

617
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:25,559
one of them was again in the same town

618
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:27,600
um me and a friend were walking along

619
00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:29,279
the edge of the forest

620
00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:30,179
um and again I must have been about

621
00:31:35,930 --> 00:31:31,980
seven or eight years old

622
00:31:38,750 --> 00:31:35,940
and um we heard what sounded like

623
00:31:41,090 --> 00:31:38,760
buzzing and I'm terrified of bees and

624
00:31:42,289 --> 00:31:41,100
wasps as it is although I think this is

625
00:31:43,850 --> 00:31:42,299
probably where the firm may have come

626
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:43,860
from

627
00:31:48,169 --> 00:31:45,539
um we saw what looked like a model

628
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:48,179
airplane or a remote controlled aircraft

629
00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:50,399
one of those model kits that people fly

630
00:31:54,289 --> 00:31:51,720
you know

631
00:31:57,289 --> 00:31:54,299
um and it's just sort of hanging around

632
00:31:58,190 --> 00:31:57,299
the edge of the forest maybe 100 yards

633
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,200
away

634
00:32:02,210 --> 00:32:00,720
and uh I thought you know well that's

635
00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:02,220
that's kind of cool look at that

636
00:32:06,830 --> 00:32:04,260
airplane and it was a little black and

637
00:32:09,470 --> 00:32:06,840
yellow stripe thing flying around pretty

638
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:09,480
noisy and then we looked around to see

639
00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:12,000
who was on the ground flying it with a

640
00:32:15,950 --> 00:32:13,860
control and there was no one around

641
00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:15,960
and then it dipped down and started

642
00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:17,580
coming towards us

643
00:32:21,409 --> 00:32:19,140
and that's when I realized there was a

644
00:32:23,389 --> 00:32:21,419
dragonfly

645
00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:23,399
um but it was about a foot long I mean

646
00:32:29,210 --> 00:32:25,620
it was absolutely huge and Incredibly

647
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:29,220
noisy and so we just turned and ran

648
00:32:35,769 --> 00:32:31,919
um and I I overtook my friend left him

649
00:32:41,630 --> 00:32:38,810
I just ran home I just had to get away

650
00:32:43,850 --> 00:32:41,640
from it um and

651
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:43,860
I mean it was huge it was a huge

652
00:32:49,850 --> 00:32:45,600
dragonfly it wasn't a remote control

653
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:49,860
plane and it traced us for I don't know

654
00:32:54,769 --> 00:32:52,080
500 jars till I got home and then it

655
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:54,779
sort of just peted off into the woods

656
00:32:58,850 --> 00:32:56,880
um but that was a strange one

657
00:33:01,310 --> 00:32:58,860
um the other one

658
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:01,320
was seeing a drag not dragonfly

659
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:04,799
grasshopper a bright green grasshopper

660
00:33:10,730 --> 00:33:07,440
with a human face like an old man's face

661
00:33:12,289 --> 00:33:10,740
wow well I mentioned this one recently

662
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,299
um because at first I thought again I

663
00:33:16,970 --> 00:33:13,919
thought it was a toy

664
00:33:18,769 --> 00:33:16,980
and I was about to go to the shops with

665
00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:18,779
my mom and I was already outside waiting

666
00:33:22,669 --> 00:33:19,980
for her I think she'd gone back inside

667
00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:22,679
because she'd forgotten something

668
00:33:27,409 --> 00:33:25,260
um so I was outside waiting to leave and

669
00:33:28,850 --> 00:33:27,419
I lent over this wall where we were

670
00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:28,860
living and I looked over the edge of the

671
00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:31,140
wall into the sort of Garden area

672
00:33:37,009 --> 00:33:34,500
and I saw what I thought was a large

673
00:33:39,409 --> 00:33:37,019
green toy of a grasshopper you can get

674
00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:39,419
these big plastic insects in you know in

675
00:33:43,250 --> 00:33:40,860
most kids toys

676
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:43,260
places in the 80s especially

677
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:44,700
um and I thought it was one of them so I

678
00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:47,039
sort of learn over to almost grab it

679
00:33:52,610 --> 00:33:50,100
and it turned its head on a swivel kind

680
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:52,620
of thing as they do and looked up at me

681
00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:55,140
it sort of arched its body and twisted

682
00:34:00,169 --> 00:33:56,279
its head around

683
00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,179
and it had an old man's face and um

684
00:34:04,430 --> 00:34:02,399
and so I just ran I just ran inside and

685
00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:04,440
said mom Mom you know come and look at

686
00:34:07,130 --> 00:34:05,640
this quick

687
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:07,140
we went back outside and of course it

688
00:34:09,230 --> 00:34:08,399
was gone

689
00:34:12,109 --> 00:34:09,240
um

690
00:34:13,490 --> 00:34:12,119
but you know I play tricks on you and as

691
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:13,500
you say when you're a child you see

692
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:14,639
things differently and things look

693
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,000
larger yeah his old all different ways

694
00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:21,119
you could possibly explain it but um it

695
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:24,419
just stood out to me it's really odd uh

696
00:34:29,810 --> 00:34:27,179
I I can't explain it

697
00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:29,820
oh you know I I've never really talked

698
00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:32,159
about this but when I was um

699
00:34:36,589 --> 00:34:34,500
oh God I was growing up and I grew up in

700
00:34:38,450 --> 00:34:36,599
a really old house

701
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:38,460
uh I lived in a couple houses when I was

702
00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:42,000
a kid but the one thing that I re I

703
00:34:46,909 --> 00:34:44,460
remember vividly is at night when I was

704
00:34:49,490 --> 00:34:46,919
getting ready to go to sleep

705
00:34:53,629 --> 00:34:49,500
and I'd be laying there and

706
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,639
in this large mass dark Mass would form

707
00:34:59,089 --> 00:34:55,440
above me

708
00:35:02,450 --> 00:34:59,099
happened almost every night he was huge

709
00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:02,460
and I I never knew what it was and I you

710
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:04,500
know I I never mentioned it to my

711
00:35:07,849 --> 00:35:06,240
parents I you know I had a lot of

712
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:07,859
encounters

713
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:10,619
as I was when I was younger but I never

714
00:35:14,750 --> 00:35:13,200
mentioned this huge mess and I have

715
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:14,760
never been able to figure it out it

716
00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:17,280
actually eventually went away after I

717
00:35:23,569 --> 00:35:19,800
don't know I became got to the age of

718
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,579
maybe five or six well but um

719
00:35:29,569 --> 00:35:25,920
but then I had you know of course I had

720
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,579
an encounter uh when I was you know got

721
00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:31,680
a little older I had a uh encounter in

722
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:32,820
Gettysburg

723
00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:36,000
and uh and then I had a few other things

724
00:35:41,329 --> 00:35:39,180
so maybe that was my intuitiveness

725
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,339
that was picking up something I don't

726
00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:43,200
know you know that house was creepy

727
00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:46,740
anyway and uh you know maybe something

728
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:48,780
did manifest but I just never really

729
00:35:54,890 --> 00:35:52,079
understood what it was

730
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:54,900
yeah who knows maybe uh maybe it knew

731
00:36:01,130 --> 00:35:57,680
that you'd be doing this as a career

732
00:36:03,530 --> 00:36:01,140
well who knows I mean you know I

733
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,540
I always knew something was going on but

734
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:05,760
I just never really figured it out until

735
00:36:10,490 --> 00:36:08,400
later on after I had that encounter

736
00:36:11,650 --> 00:36:10,500
Gettysburg and as time went on I was

737
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:11,660
able to

738
00:36:17,810 --> 00:36:15,359
uh determine that I was sensing Spirit

739
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,820
energy and of course I've had these

740
00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:19,920
Cryptid encounters which

741
00:36:25,130 --> 00:36:23,160
I I guess I feel lucky to have had I

742
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:25,140
don't think maybe I've gotten into this

743
00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:28,560
maybe if I hadn't had them but uh I I

744
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,300
had always been involved with the

745
00:36:33,770 --> 00:36:32,640
Paranormal for a long time even in you

746
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:33,780
know in high school I was doing

747
00:36:37,970 --> 00:36:36,000
investigations that was back in the 70s

748
00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:37,980
and people would look at you like you

749
00:36:44,510 --> 00:36:40,980
were nuts when you talked about it uh I

750
00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:44,520
I grew up in a very conservative area so

751
00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:45,420
um

752
00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:47,160
and of course I never talked about it

753
00:36:51,890 --> 00:36:48,920
with my parents

754
00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:51,900
maybe I was destined maybe you were

755
00:36:57,530 --> 00:36:54,300
destined so uh who knows

756
00:36:59,690 --> 00:36:57,540
yeah I just find it um

757
00:37:02,650 --> 00:36:59,700
I think some people get hooked into it

758
00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:02,660
because and I can only relate to it is

759
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:06,180
with the artwork kind of thing is um

760
00:37:09,890 --> 00:37:08,400
I don't want to draw a bowl of fruit you

761
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:09,900
know I don't want to paint a picture of

762
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,000
some bananas and apples in a bowl

763
00:37:16,370 --> 00:37:14,160
because to me you know you see that

764
00:37:18,650 --> 00:37:16,380
every day I'm more interested in the

765
00:37:21,710 --> 00:37:18,660
things that you don't see

766
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,720
um but when you do see them it's worth

767
00:37:25,609 --> 00:37:23,520
recording them and it's worth sharing

768
00:37:28,190 --> 00:37:25,619
that and you know we're not the only

769
00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:28,200
ones these things do happen

770
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:31,320
why we don't know but I think nature is

771
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:34,560
so varied that there's such a spectrum

772
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:37,920
of species on the planet that

773
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:40,560
we can't possibly know everything in

774
00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:42,720
every area of existence in terms of

775
00:37:47,930 --> 00:37:45,240
whether something is on a higher plane

776
00:37:49,849 --> 00:37:47,940
of existence whether super nature takes

777
00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:49,859
it to another level I mean if you look

778
00:37:55,849 --> 00:37:52,380
at a chameleon a lizard that can

779
00:37:58,670 --> 00:37:55,859
transform its skin colors and textures

780
00:38:00,290 --> 00:37:58,680
by Will as can an octopus could you

781
00:38:01,089 --> 00:38:00,300
imagine the first people that discovered

782
00:38:05,810 --> 00:38:01,099
that

783
00:38:08,030 --> 00:38:05,820
science fiction happening right in front

784
00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:08,040
of you this animal is transforming and

785
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:09,720
particularly octopus where they change

786
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:12,240
shape they become more you know some of

787
00:38:16,730 --> 00:38:15,119
them can look like a spiky Rock and then

788
00:38:19,310 --> 00:38:16,740
they become smooth again

789
00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:19,320
some of them become transparent

790
00:38:22,370 --> 00:38:21,060
um so it makes me wonder you know on the

791
00:38:24,349 --> 00:38:22,380
spectrum of Nature and natural history

792
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:24,359
if you want to look at it from that

793
00:38:29,329 --> 00:38:26,880
angle if there was ever a way to

794
00:38:31,609 --> 00:38:29,339
eventually record these things

795
00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:31,619
are they just another extension of

796
00:38:37,609 --> 00:38:34,740
reality that we just haven't managed to

797
00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:37,619
catalog because they're so elusive

798
00:38:42,890 --> 00:38:41,160
yeah yeah yeah and me I almost asked

799
00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:42,900
that question every day I mean you know

800
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:45,060
I I hear so many different things from

801
00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:46,880
so many different people

802
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:49,380
uh and every once in a while invariably

803
00:38:54,109 --> 00:38:51,359
something pops up that I've never had

804
00:38:58,250 --> 00:38:54,119
any inkling of what was people had ever

805
00:39:01,010 --> 00:38:58,260
seen before and uh it it keeps it keeps

806
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,020
you on my toes quite frankly and then I

807
00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:03,359
got to try to explain it to people and

808
00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:05,880
try to write up about it it can be a

809
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:07,560
chore sometimes

810
00:39:13,150 --> 00:39:10,320
um so Mothman 46 is asked the question

811
00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:13,160
what scares Sam

812
00:39:18,010 --> 00:39:15,420
what scares me

813
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:18,020
um time

814
00:39:23,870 --> 00:39:21,359
scares me yeah

815
00:39:28,010 --> 00:39:23,880
you know I mentioned earlier on on 44

816
00:39:31,490 --> 00:39:28,020
and I did some really depressing math or

817
00:39:32,569 --> 00:39:31,500
mathematics or maths as we say in the UK

818
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:32,579
um

819
00:39:37,490 --> 00:39:35,760
a little while back I I sort of

820
00:39:42,109 --> 00:39:37,500
I tried to work out

821
00:39:44,210 --> 00:39:42,119
how much time me as an artist has on

822
00:39:46,910 --> 00:39:44,220
this Earth that would be functional to

823
00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:46,920
you know create and how much time you

824
00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:48,420
have left and it's the worst thing you

825
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:51,480
can do but I figured out that if I was

826
00:39:56,450 --> 00:39:53,280
one of the lucky ones

827
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:56,460
to live to around 80. and that's a big

828
00:40:00,109 --> 00:39:57,359
if

829
00:40:01,730 --> 00:40:00,119
then I've got about 2 000 weeks left

830
00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:01,740
that's it

831
00:40:08,089 --> 00:40:03,480
and when you when you think two thousand

832
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:08,099
weeks or or even worse 40 or less you

833
00:40:13,730 --> 00:40:11,520
know 36 Summers left that's it it really

834
00:40:20,349 --> 00:40:13,740
becomes frightening so I think the

835
00:40:24,770 --> 00:40:23,630
things that scare me on that level

836
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:24,780
um

837
00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:27,599
I think the idea of as with anything not

838
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:31,020
knowing what's going on is terrifying if

839
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,359
I'm in a room alone

840
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,000
um which has happened in my apartment in

841
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:38,640
Hollywood I was just taking a quick nap

842
00:40:44,450 --> 00:40:41,280
on the couch for five minutes uh before

843
00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:44,460
a rider was due to pick me up

844
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:48,540
and somebody shouted in my ear hey

845
00:40:52,490 --> 00:40:50,640
and I opened my eyes because I thought

846
00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:52,500
maybe I'd left my door open and my

847
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:55,380
friend had snuck in

848
00:41:00,589 --> 00:40:58,560
um there was no one there and it was as

849
00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:00,599
clear as day and that kind of thing

850
00:41:06,170 --> 00:41:03,240
scares me because there's no control

851
00:41:08,930 --> 00:41:06,180
over it there's no answer there's no it

852
00:41:11,470 --> 00:41:08,940
is the unknown it you know is this gonna

853
00:41:14,690 --> 00:41:11,480
harm me in some way am I in danger

854
00:41:18,589 --> 00:41:14,700
what's going on is this even

855
00:41:20,690 --> 00:41:18,599
a human once upon a time or is this

856
00:41:22,609 --> 00:41:20,700
something that was never human that's

857
00:41:23,569 --> 00:41:22,619
learned the English language I don't

858
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:23,579
know

859
00:41:27,050 --> 00:41:24,240
um

860
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:27,060
it's that's terrifying to me

861
00:41:33,170 --> 00:41:30,240
um I've had sleep paralysis twice

862
00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:33,180
only in the last two years for the first

863
00:41:36,650 --> 00:41:34,260
time ever

864
00:41:37,609 --> 00:41:36,660
I never thought I would I always used to

865
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:37,619
think that that's something that just

866
00:41:43,490 --> 00:41:39,839
happens to other people

867
00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:43,500
um and I had no idea what it was like

868
00:41:48,829 --> 00:41:46,680
uh you know you can imagine you hear so

869
00:41:50,750 --> 00:41:48,839
many stories about it but

870
00:41:55,310 --> 00:41:50,760
I literally couldn't move and I couldn't

871
00:41:58,329 --> 00:41:55,320
breathe and a dark figure that looked

872
00:42:02,510 --> 00:41:58,339
like a solid black

873
00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:02,520
hooded uh ripped clothing kind of almost

874
00:42:06,530 --> 00:42:04,980
like a witch if you if you want to

875
00:42:08,270 --> 00:42:06,540
imagine that it's just

876
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:08,280
a mass

877
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:08,880
um

878
00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:11,760
of Darkness the figure just came rushing

879
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:14,040
in the room from the doorway

880
00:42:18,890 --> 00:42:15,839
down the side of the wall Towards the

881
00:42:21,530 --> 00:42:18,900
bed and as it got to me

882
00:42:23,870 --> 00:42:21,540
um it just kind of dissipated and I I

883
00:42:25,550 --> 00:42:23,880
could breathe and I got set up again and

884
00:42:27,890 --> 00:42:25,560
that's happened twice and it was the

885
00:42:30,829 --> 00:42:27,900
exact same thing again which makes me

886
00:42:33,470 --> 00:42:30,839
wonder if it's a medical thing if it's

887
00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:33,480
if it's your brain creating this

888
00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:34,680
situation

889
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:37,260
I don't know if it happened here in Los

890
00:42:40,849 --> 00:42:39,359
Angeles and it happened at my parents

891
00:42:43,010 --> 00:42:40,859
house

892
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:43,020
um which makes me think it's a physical

893
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,359
thing because why would that same entity

894
00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:48,000
who knows but why would it follow me

895
00:42:52,450 --> 00:42:50,760
from LA to the UK

896
00:42:54,650 --> 00:42:52,460
um that's one hell of a coincidence

897
00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:54,660
unless they can just come in and out of

898
00:42:59,390 --> 00:42:57,540
Wherever You Are who knows that was

899
00:43:01,970 --> 00:42:59,400
terrifying because I've never

900
00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:01,980
experienced it I never thought I would

901
00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:03,660
as I say I thought you know oh that's

902
00:43:07,870 --> 00:43:04,859
just something that happens to other

903
00:43:11,390 --> 00:43:07,880
people but um sure enough

904
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,400
uh absolute Terror this thing rushing in

905
00:43:15,890 --> 00:43:13,440
the world I could see it I was wide

906
00:43:17,809 --> 00:43:15,900
awake couldn't move couldn't breathe

907
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:17,819
and as it approached me and we're

908
00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:19,260
talking in

909
00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:22,380
less than two seconds was the time it

910
00:43:25,730 --> 00:43:24,060
took to enter the room and travel down

911
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,740
the side of the bed

912
00:43:29,329 --> 00:43:27,599
you know so one Mississippi two

913
00:43:33,170 --> 00:43:29,339
Mississippi that was it

914
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:33,180
wow but it was terrifying just that that

915
00:43:36,890 --> 00:43:34,800
sort of scares me things you have no

916
00:43:40,609 --> 00:43:36,900
control over

917
00:43:42,589 --> 00:43:40,619
um that are unexplained I get that you

918
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:42,599
know you mentioned two things that that

919
00:43:49,970 --> 00:43:46,440
make me thinking a lot is time and you

920
00:43:52,690 --> 00:43:49,980
know we've all got a finite number of

921
00:43:56,270 --> 00:43:52,700
years on this you know

922
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:59,690
yeah and you wonder when are my time is

923
00:44:04,370 --> 00:44:01,920
up I mean when's that gonna happen but

924
00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:04,380
also the biggest thing is that you have

925
00:44:10,730 --> 00:44:08,520
no control over it and uh if you are

926
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:10,740
someone who's had experiences like you

927
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:13,380
and myself and others uh

928
00:44:18,410 --> 00:44:16,079
in most instances you have no control

929
00:44:21,890 --> 00:44:18,420
over what you're sensing or what you're

930
00:44:25,010 --> 00:44:21,900
seeing and that has to me that is the

931
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,020
scariest thing you know I I can go into

932
00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:27,599
an investigation or I can

933
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,900
you know when I'm really focusing on it

934
00:44:35,390 --> 00:44:32,400
and then

935
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:35,400
when I I have seen something or have

936
00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:38,040
experienced something the fear is not

937
00:44:43,150 --> 00:44:40,920
there at the time but boy I'm telling

938
00:44:46,010 --> 00:44:43,160
you when I reflect back on it

939
00:44:48,410 --> 00:44:46,020
that is when I get scared

940
00:44:51,530 --> 00:44:48,420
yeah yeah

941
00:44:54,770 --> 00:44:51,540
um I I remember uh I visited a number of

942
00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:54,780
haunted houses full enough in January

943
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:56,220
I went to

944
00:45:00,050 --> 00:44:57,119
um

945
00:45:01,250 --> 00:45:00,060
the Golden Fleece in York City of York

946
00:45:03,050 --> 00:45:01,260
in the UK

947
00:45:04,730 --> 00:45:03,060
and it's supposed to be the most haunted

948
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,740
Pub in England but of course they all

949
00:45:08,109 --> 00:45:06,480
say that don't they

950
00:45:12,349 --> 00:45:08,119
um sure

951
00:45:14,690 --> 00:45:12,359
but uh this was featured on most haunted

952
00:45:15,890 --> 00:45:14,700
the TV show take that with a pinch

953
00:45:18,170 --> 00:45:15,900
assault

954
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:18,180
um whichever you like your part it has

955
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,520
all kinds of recorded things happening

956
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:22,319
in this place but um nothing had

957
00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:24,000
happened there but what had happened to

958
00:45:29,569 --> 00:45:27,300
me in a place in the city of uh just

959
00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:29,579
outside the city of Preston in the UK in

960
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:30,839
the northwest

961
00:45:36,349 --> 00:45:34,079
there's a house that's I think it's over

962
00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:36,359
700 years old and it's called shingle

963
00:45:40,490 --> 00:45:38,579
Hall well that just sounds haunted

964
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:40,500
doesn't it jingle

965
00:45:46,270 --> 00:45:43,440
um and it changed hands you know over

966
00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:46,280
centuries at one point they used to hide

967
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:48,900
uh monks

968
00:45:53,569 --> 00:45:51,359
um inside the walls so that the Roman

969
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:53,579
soldiers didn't come in and murder them

970
00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:55,920
you know just conflicting religions and

971
00:46:00,290 --> 00:45:57,540
things like that and another time it was

972
00:46:02,450 --> 00:46:00,300
a children's orphanage

973
00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:02,460
um and so on and so forth and so this

974
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:05,940
place is just riddled with all kinds of

975
00:46:10,250 --> 00:46:08,400
treachery and awful sad stories and

976
00:46:12,050 --> 00:46:10,260
there's supposed to be a head buried in

977
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:12,060
a wall somewhere

978
00:46:14,329 --> 00:46:12,720
um

979
00:46:16,250 --> 00:46:14,339
and I've been there three times I've

980
00:46:19,490 --> 00:46:16,260
stayed over there twice

981
00:46:22,490 --> 00:46:19,500
but this is maybe 15 years ago

982
00:46:24,109 --> 00:46:22,500
um I went and stayed with uh seven

983
00:46:26,569 --> 00:46:24,119
friends

984
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,579
and the owners sort of gave you the tour

985
00:46:31,490 --> 00:46:29,280
at the beginning and then they they say

986
00:46:32,750 --> 00:46:31,500
okay well I'll see you at dawn you know

987
00:46:35,329 --> 00:46:32,760
good luck

988
00:46:37,250 --> 00:46:35,339
and we're just generally sort of sit

989
00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:37,260
around in one room we made a pact

990
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,480
together that we would all stay in the

991
00:46:43,250 --> 00:46:41,520
same room and if we were going to move

992
00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:43,260
somewhere then we would all move

993
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:45,060
together we wouldn't be all wandering

994
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,040
around everywhere you know like they do

995
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:49,200
on these TV shows

996
00:46:53,930 --> 00:46:50,160
um

997
00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:53,940
and so I would set up video cameras

998
00:46:58,370 --> 00:46:56,460
um on tripods in one room

999
00:47:00,650 --> 00:46:58,380
and then we would all go and sit in a

1000
00:47:02,329 --> 00:47:00,660
different room and we would rotate until

1001
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,339
we went through every room in the house

1002
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:04,560
for the whole night

1003
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:07,920
um and on the top floor there's only

1004
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,079
there's only really two rooms it's such

1005
00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:12,720
a small building but the stairs go up to

1006
00:47:16,010 --> 00:47:14,040
a corridor

1007
00:47:17,450 --> 00:47:16,020
and the first room is at the top of the

1008
00:47:19,490 --> 00:47:17,460
stairs and the second is down the

1009
00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:19,500
corridors that's a dead end essentially

1010
00:47:26,030 --> 00:47:22,680
there's no way you can get past it

1011
00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:26,040
um so we'd all spent an hour in there

1012
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:28,980
and it was the room where the most

1013
00:47:35,089 --> 00:47:32,160
violent ghost is supposed to be there

1014
00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:35,099
um people have been shoved pushed poked

1015
00:47:38,990 --> 00:47:38,220
scratched you know all of the tropes

1016
00:47:40,609 --> 00:47:39,000
um

1017
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,619
you're not supposed to shut the door

1018
00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:42,720
because there was a fire in there and

1019
00:47:46,550 --> 00:47:44,700
it's supposed to anger one of the ghosts

1020
00:47:48,050 --> 00:47:46,560
so of course we shut the door and we

1021
00:47:48,770 --> 00:47:48,060
locked it and we all sat in there for an

1022
00:47:50,450 --> 00:47:48,780
hour

1023
00:47:52,370 --> 00:47:50,460
nothing happened

1024
00:47:55,370 --> 00:47:52,380
and then we decided okay well then let's

1025
00:47:58,190 --> 00:47:55,380
go sit in the other room

1026
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:58,200
um and I have been sat in an armchair in

1027
00:48:03,290 --> 00:47:59,280
the corner

1028
00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:03,300
and this corner of the room is Maybe

1029
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,780
10 15 feet from the doorway

1030
00:48:10,550 --> 00:48:08,640
and it's a wood floor

1031
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:10,560
so we've left that room and we went to

1032
00:48:14,450 --> 00:48:12,000
the second room and we spent another

1033
00:48:17,329 --> 00:48:14,460
hour in that room now I was the the last

1034
00:48:21,470 --> 00:48:17,339
person to leave their first room

1035
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,480
and the first one out of the second room

1036
00:48:26,270 --> 00:48:24,240
and when I when we'd spent that second

1037
00:48:28,370 --> 00:48:26,280
hour in the second room I came out in

1038
00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:28,380
the armchair I had previously been sat

1039
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:32,520
in was now in the doorway facing the

1040
00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:36,800
corridor and there is absolutely no way

1041
00:48:41,809 --> 00:48:39,660
anybody else was in the house

1042
00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:41,819
nobody had left the room that I was in

1043
00:48:45,530 --> 00:48:44,040
because I was the last one in there so

1044
00:48:46,490 --> 00:48:45,540
they would have to have walked past me

1045
00:48:48,589 --> 00:48:46,500
to leave

1046
00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:48,599
nobody came upstairs and went past me

1047
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:51,900
down the corridor this big leather

1048
00:48:58,370 --> 00:48:55,680
wooden armchair had somehow silently

1049
00:49:02,210 --> 00:48:58,380
moved from the corner

1050
00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:02,220
10 or 15 feet across the wood floor in

1051
00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:05,160
this tiny little house right next room

1052
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:07,980
to us and it placed itself in the

1053
00:49:13,870 --> 00:49:10,640
doorway now facing the corridor

1054
00:49:17,930 --> 00:49:13,880
and when you talk about getting a shiver

1055
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:17,940
of not understanding what's happening

1056
00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:20,640
um there was no there was no crying

1057
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:23,220
children there was no moaning voices or

1058
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:24,480
rattling chains there was nothing

1059
00:49:29,930 --> 00:49:27,359
screaming there was no violence it was

1060
00:49:31,930 --> 00:49:29,940
just this chair was there almost as if

1061
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:31,940
to say look or we can do

1062
00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:35,760
and it was terrifying to see that and

1063
00:49:40,190 --> 00:49:38,520
not be able to understand it

1064
00:49:43,069 --> 00:49:40,200
I think that's I think that's one of the

1065
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:43,079
weirdest things I've ever experienced

1066
00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:44,880
um because again it was also one of

1067
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,619
those chairs that it would take two

1068
00:49:50,329 --> 00:49:48,480
people to lift you know it wasn't just

1069
00:49:52,130 --> 00:49:50,339
like a living room chair it was a big

1070
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:52,140
leather armchair in the corner of the

1071
00:49:55,130 --> 00:49:53,040
room

1072
00:49:56,270 --> 00:49:55,140
they had somehow silently moved by

1073
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,280
itself

1074
00:50:01,550 --> 00:49:58,800
and it wasn't as though I had moved it

1075
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:01,560
when I got out of the chair and not

1076
00:50:07,550 --> 00:50:04,800
realized it had traveled and changed its

1077
00:50:11,690 --> 00:50:07,560
position into the doorway we had to put

1078
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:11,700
it back that's how far it moved so that

1079
00:50:14,510 --> 00:50:13,680
was very strange

1080
00:50:22,609 --> 00:50:14,520
um

1081
00:50:24,530 --> 00:50:22,619
the chat and I I'm kind of interested in

1082
00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:24,540
what your thoughts are that people who

1083
00:50:30,109 --> 00:50:27,720
are creative live Between Worlds do you

1084
00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:30,119
believe that to be true

1085
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:33,540
live Between Worlds um

1086
00:50:39,230 --> 00:50:36,480
I suppose I would ask what what they

1087
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:39,240
mean by Between Worlds

1088
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:40,079
um

1089
00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:41,520
I think

1090
00:50:47,930 --> 00:50:45,540
imagination

1091
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:47,940
um can spin their own

1092
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:50,400
little world before they go to sleep and

1093
00:50:56,329 --> 00:50:53,400
enough it helps me to sleep if I start

1094
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:56,339
to drift off into a world of my own but

1095
00:51:01,549 --> 00:50:59,520
I'm exactly the same way exactly the

1096
00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:01,559
same way yeah you know and it could be

1097
00:51:06,349 --> 00:51:04,020
any anything I can think of you know um

1098
00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:06,359
I like to write a lot of stories and and

1099
00:51:09,950 --> 00:51:09,240
plan short films in my head kind of

1100
00:51:13,549 --> 00:51:09,960
thing

1101
00:51:16,490 --> 00:51:13,559
um but in terms of having a fit in to

1102
00:51:18,170 --> 00:51:16,500
the other side or the Beyond or or

1103
00:51:18,829 --> 00:51:18,180
what's beyond death

1104
00:51:21,650 --> 00:51:18,839
um

1105
00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:21,660
I would I would guess you know maybe

1106
00:51:26,030 --> 00:51:24,300
a number of mediums would claim that

1107
00:51:28,490 --> 00:51:26,040
they can talk to the dead or they hear

1108
00:51:30,290 --> 00:51:28,500
the dead I'm not

1109
00:51:34,010 --> 00:51:30,300
um someone that really

1110
00:51:36,890 --> 00:51:34,020
uh can swallow that too often I I

1111
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:36,900
believe some people may very well hear

1112
00:51:42,890 --> 00:51:39,119
voices and be in tune to it but I think

1113
00:51:44,270 --> 00:51:42,900
99 of those people are just I hate to

1114
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:44,280
say it

1115
00:51:47,450 --> 00:51:46,319
um fooling themselves more than anyone

1116
00:51:49,549 --> 00:51:47,460
else

1117
00:51:53,569 --> 00:51:49,559
um especially thinking wishful thinking

1118
00:51:55,250 --> 00:51:53,579
you know I um I have the one thing I do

1119
00:51:57,290 --> 00:51:55,260
experience occasionally being an

1120
00:52:00,410 --> 00:51:57,300
intuitive is um

1121
00:52:04,130 --> 00:52:00,420
it sees them constantly being bombarded

1122
00:52:06,049 --> 00:52:04,140
by energies and when I say that I'm like

1123
00:52:08,510 --> 00:52:06,059
what you know that period of time when

1124
00:52:10,970 --> 00:52:08,520
you're laying or laying down or getting

1125
00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:10,980
ready to sleep between the time you are

1126
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:13,880
awake and the time you fall asleep

1127
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:16,559
there's a certain

1128
00:52:21,950 --> 00:52:18,960
something something changes I don't know

1129
00:52:23,569 --> 00:52:21,960
if it's the the mental chemistry or you

1130
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:23,579
know your brain chemistry or something

1131
00:52:29,569 --> 00:52:26,720
when I start

1132
00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:29,579
to see in my mind's eye and start

1133
00:52:37,069 --> 00:52:30,839
hearing

1134
00:52:39,410 --> 00:52:37,079
people looking through a window at me

1135
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,420
and trying to communicate

1136
00:52:42,650 --> 00:52:41,280
yeah so you know that's that's

1137
00:52:44,930 --> 00:52:42,660
terrifying

1138
00:52:47,530 --> 00:52:44,940
um yeah and it happens to me it's

1139
00:52:52,849 --> 00:52:47,540
happened to me most of my life

1140
00:52:55,809 --> 00:52:52,859
uh but more so in later years

1141
00:52:58,609 --> 00:52:55,819
um maybe the past 20 years or so

1142
00:53:00,589 --> 00:52:58,619
uh and it's um

1143
00:53:02,450 --> 00:53:00,599
you know it'll you know I'll be laying

1144
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,460
it doesn't happen all the time but

1145
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:05,040
occasionally when I'll be I'll be wait

1146
00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:07,680
laying there sitting there getting ready

1147
00:53:13,250 --> 00:53:10,680
to drift off I see this like window or

1148
00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:13,260
this opening or something coming and I

1149
00:53:17,890 --> 00:53:15,240
see a head

1150
00:53:20,690 --> 00:53:17,900
coming from the edge

1151
00:53:23,930 --> 00:53:20,700
like something or someone is trying to

1152
00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:26,329
um sometimes I hear I think I hear

1153
00:53:31,609 --> 00:53:29,220
something yeah but for the most part

1154
00:53:34,490 --> 00:53:31,619
most the time it's

1155
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:34,500
it's the the face of someone who's

1156
00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:37,200
looking at me you can see them mouthing

1157
00:53:41,450 --> 00:53:39,660
but you can't always hear them

1158
00:53:46,010 --> 00:53:41,460
and uh

1159
00:53:48,109 --> 00:53:46,020
the the best that I can do is kind of

1160
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,119
be like an empath and try to understand

1161
00:53:53,630 --> 00:53:50,160
what they're trying to communicate with

1162
00:53:55,010 --> 00:53:53,640
me that happens to me occasionally and I

1163
00:53:57,950 --> 00:53:55,020
have talked to mediums and other

1164
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:57,960
intuitives about that it seems a lot of

1165
00:54:03,290 --> 00:54:00,240
them had the same thing happen to me you

1166
00:54:05,390 --> 00:54:03,300
know yeah I coincidentally a beacon you

1167
00:54:08,450 --> 00:54:05,400
know being a beacon a spirit Beacon and

1168
00:54:11,329 --> 00:54:08,460
and that they try to contact you because

1169
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,339
you know they they want you to recognize

1170
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,680
that they're there I don't know I mean

1171
00:54:16,670 --> 00:54:15,119
whatever the reason I mean that's I

1172
00:54:19,849 --> 00:54:16,680
guess that's what a haunting really is

1173
00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:19,859
yeah I'm trying to get you know trying

1174
00:54:24,890 --> 00:54:22,020
to get verification that they you know

1175
00:54:27,650 --> 00:54:24,900
they maybe you can see them see that's

1176
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,660
that's what interests me is

1177
00:54:32,089 --> 00:54:29,280
um the people who really are having

1178
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:32,099
those experiences and who are yeah and I

1179
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:34,559
believe there are people who can feel

1180
00:54:38,089 --> 00:54:36,839
and see and hear these things and I

1181
00:54:40,250 --> 00:54:38,099
think those people are not the people

1182
00:54:42,650 --> 00:54:40,260
that go on television I think those are

1183
00:54:45,710 --> 00:54:42,660
not the people that make a career out of

1184
00:54:48,770 --> 00:54:45,720
it yeah I I think most of those people

1185
00:54:50,690 --> 00:54:48,780
are entertainers

1186
00:54:53,450 --> 00:54:50,700
for one of cruel words that you could

1187
00:54:56,450 --> 00:54:53,460
say but there are I do believe there are

1188
00:54:59,089 --> 00:54:56,460
a number of people who absolutely hear

1189
00:55:01,250 --> 00:54:59,099
and see things on a daily basis and I I

1190
00:55:03,170 --> 00:55:01,260
would imagine it's quite tormenting

1191
00:55:05,690 --> 00:55:03,180
and quite worrying because who do you

1192
00:55:07,849 --> 00:55:05,700
tell without sounding crazy who do you

1193
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,859
tell without somebody saying oh you know

1194
00:55:11,210 --> 00:55:09,839
they hear voices they must have a mental

1195
00:55:13,010 --> 00:55:11,220
issue

1196
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:13,020
um because of course that's also a very

1197
00:55:18,530 --> 00:55:14,160
real thing

1198
00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:18,540
so it can be I would assume frightening

1199
00:55:24,049 --> 00:55:21,000
to hear that on a daily basis

1200
00:55:25,970 --> 00:55:24,059
um for whatever's happening whether

1201
00:55:27,470 --> 00:55:25,980
and everything everything in life is a

1202
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,480
frequency isn't it so if there's a

1203
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,000
vibration where in the next realm after

1204
00:55:33,410 --> 00:55:32,160
we've died wherever we go wherever that

1205
00:55:36,170 --> 00:55:33,420
energy is

1206
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:36,180
I wonder if it's not people getting

1207
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:37,920
trapped here but if if there's a

1208
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:40,319
thinning of the veil or if there's some

1209
00:55:44,690 --> 00:55:43,200
kind of a frequency that in the right

1210
00:55:47,210 --> 00:55:44,700
circumstances

1211
00:55:49,549 --> 00:55:47,220
you can see back

1212
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:49,559
um perhaps throughout time because again

1213
00:55:54,410 --> 00:55:52,079
time is terrifying because it goes in

1214
00:55:56,450 --> 00:55:54,420
every direction it's not linear it's all

1215
00:55:59,329 --> 00:55:56,460
around us everything's happening all at

1216
00:56:00,770 --> 00:55:59,339
once and that's terrifying

1217
00:56:02,750 --> 00:56:00,780
um you can think back to your childhood

1218
00:56:05,089 --> 00:56:02,760
in a second and you're there

1219
00:56:07,549 --> 00:56:05,099
that happened

1220
00:56:09,470 --> 00:56:07,559
um to know what's going to come next or

1221
00:56:10,010 --> 00:56:09,480
when you're going to die

1222
00:56:12,170 --> 00:56:10,020
um

1223
00:56:14,750 --> 00:56:12,180
particularly if you're hearing a lot of

1224
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:14,760
voices towards the end I know

1225
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:17,640
um I was in a hospital maybe 20 years

1226
00:56:25,130 --> 00:56:20,880
ago now but there was an old man who had

1227
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:25,140
a private room next to the ward I was in

1228
00:56:31,970 --> 00:56:26,400
and

1229
00:56:33,770 --> 00:56:31,980
he'd be at first angry but then he'd get

1230
00:56:36,170 --> 00:56:33,780
upset and then he'd be

1231
00:56:37,849 --> 00:56:36,180
terrified he sound like sounded as

1232
00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:37,859
though he was terrified and he would

1233
00:56:43,930 --> 00:56:40,380
always say that there were um people at

1234
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:43,940
the window asking him to go with them

1235
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:48,000
and the nurses would call security they

1236
00:56:50,690 --> 00:56:49,200
would do the rounds they'd go outside

1237
00:56:52,609 --> 00:56:50,700
they'd check their Windows there was

1238
00:56:55,250 --> 00:56:52,619
nobody there and this happened three

1239
00:56:57,470 --> 00:56:55,260
nights in a row and this was a very

1240
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:57,480
elderly man he was he had to be in his

1241
00:57:04,190 --> 00:57:02,160
90s very sick would somehow he was that

1242
00:57:05,329 --> 00:57:04,200
scared he would somehow manage to get

1243
00:57:08,089 --> 00:57:05,339
out of bed

1244
00:57:09,049 --> 00:57:08,099
and get to the end of the edge of the

1245
00:57:11,630 --> 00:57:09,059
bed

1246
00:57:13,069 --> 00:57:11,640
and be calling for people for help

1247
00:57:14,510 --> 00:57:13,079
saying that these people were at the

1248
00:57:15,950 --> 00:57:14,520
window and and you could hear him

1249
00:57:18,170 --> 00:57:15,960
shouting back at him and I would

1250
00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:18,180
occasionally you know have to be

1251
00:57:23,089 --> 00:57:20,760
thinking should I call the nurse

1252
00:57:24,650 --> 00:57:23,099
this happened three nights in a row to

1253
00:57:27,890 --> 00:57:24,660
the extreme where he had gotten out of

1254
00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:27,900
bed and then he died yeah

1255
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:30,900
um so it makes you wonder was he being

1256
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:33,119
called was he not ready did he not want

1257
00:57:37,609 --> 00:57:34,079
to go

1258
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,619
who were they uh that's terrifying you

1259
00:57:41,089 --> 00:57:39,119
know especially if you if you're just

1260
00:57:42,410 --> 00:57:41,099
not ready and you don't want to but also

1261
00:57:43,849 --> 00:57:42,420
if you're elderly and you don't know

1262
00:57:45,650 --> 00:57:43,859
what's going on and you don't understand

1263
00:57:47,150 --> 00:57:45,660
it I'm sure that could be frightening as

1264
00:57:49,549 --> 00:57:47,160
well

1265
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:49,559
you know I've had an occasion to be with

1266
00:57:54,530 --> 00:57:51,920
several people on their deathbed

1267
00:57:58,130 --> 00:57:54,540
relatives friends and such

1268
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:58,140
and uh if they weren't in a coma or they

1269
00:58:02,089 --> 00:58:00,960
weren't unconscious and were somewhat

1270
00:58:04,010 --> 00:58:02,099
lucid

1271
00:58:06,770 --> 00:58:04,020
every one of them

1272
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:06,780
is talking to something

1273
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:09,599
yeah yeah my grandmother

1274
00:58:15,710 --> 00:58:12,960
your grandmother yeah yeah yeah towards

1275
00:58:18,109 --> 00:58:15,720
the end she she passed away a number

1276
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:18,119
fairly recently A couple of years ago

1277
00:58:23,870 --> 00:58:19,200
um

1278
00:58:26,089 --> 00:58:23,880
will be in the kitchen and we we had a

1279
00:58:26,930 --> 00:58:26,099
sort of a baby monitor so that we could

1280
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:26,940
listen

1281
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:29,040
so make sure she was okay

1282
00:58:32,809 --> 00:58:31,200
and you would hear her jabbering away

1283
00:58:34,609 --> 00:58:32,819
talking to somebody

1284
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:34,619
and it was quite spooky

1285
00:58:36,589 --> 00:58:36,000
you know

1286
00:58:38,530 --> 00:58:36,599
um

1287
00:58:42,910 --> 00:58:38,540
she unfortunately

1288
00:58:45,170 --> 00:58:42,920
had dementia and it you know that's just

1289
00:58:47,210 --> 00:58:45,180
that's a

1290
00:58:49,970 --> 00:58:47,220
very rapid

1291
00:58:51,410 --> 00:58:49,980
um end it's quite sad

1292
00:58:53,930 --> 00:58:51,420
but

1293
00:58:55,849 --> 00:58:53,940
it makes you wonder

1294
00:58:57,410 --> 00:58:55,859
who she was talking to were they just

1295
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:57,420
memories coming in

1296
00:59:02,030 --> 00:59:00,480
from her childhood she was mentioning

1297
00:59:03,829 --> 00:59:02,040
children at school and that kind of

1298
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:03,839
thing and so that's that's the confusion

1299
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:06,000
setting in but then at night you would

1300
00:59:11,089 --> 00:59:08,160
hear her and you'd think who is she

1301
00:59:12,770 --> 00:59:11,099
talking to and uh me and my mum were in

1302
00:59:13,730 --> 00:59:12,780
the kitchen and we would listen as I say

1303
00:59:15,650 --> 00:59:13,740
at night

1304
00:59:18,109 --> 00:59:15,660
you know we'd have a cup of tea or

1305
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:18,119
something at night and um

1306
00:59:22,190 --> 00:59:20,160
we would listen to the baby monitor and

1307
00:59:23,930 --> 00:59:22,200
it was always a sort of we would almost

1308
00:59:24,589 --> 00:59:23,940
half joke to each other and we'd say you

1309
00:59:26,450 --> 00:59:24,599
know

1310
00:59:30,289 --> 00:59:26,460
I really hope we don't hear somebody

1311
00:59:33,650 --> 00:59:30,299
else answer you know well that would be

1312
00:59:35,809 --> 00:59:33,660
a that would be a another level yeah you

1313
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:35,819
know that we were always sort of you

1314
00:59:39,650 --> 00:59:36,960
know like

1315
00:59:41,390 --> 00:59:39,660
um this this is different you know but

1316
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:41,400
it would be worse if we actually heard a

1317
00:59:45,049 --> 00:59:42,559
different voice

1318
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,059
we would listen hard

1319
00:59:49,609 --> 00:59:47,760
but luckily um well thankfully we never

1320
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:49,619
did hear anybody so

1321
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:52,559
who knows who knows yeah I I understand

1322
00:59:55,549 --> 00:59:54,000
what you're saying because I've been

1323
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:55,559
through I've had that experience several

1324
01:00:00,490 --> 00:59:58,079
times with people who I've been near

1325
01:00:03,410 --> 01:00:00,500
before they passed and uh

1326
01:00:07,370 --> 01:00:03,420
it always seems to happen it really does

1327
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:07,380
and I I even mentioned it to my my wife

1328
01:00:11,329 --> 01:00:09,359
who passed away

1329
01:00:14,270 --> 01:00:11,339
about six or seven years about seven

1330
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:14,280
years ago now and uh yeah she was

1331
01:00:20,089 --> 01:00:17,280
sitting there listening as well as I and

1332
01:00:21,170 --> 01:00:20,099
I I never really figured out what it was

1333
01:00:23,089 --> 01:00:21,180
but

1334
01:00:25,670 --> 01:00:23,099
they would say some of the things you

1335
01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:25,680
kind of listen to it and you think

1336
01:00:29,870 --> 01:00:28,260
they are definitely seeing or sensing

1337
01:00:30,670 --> 01:00:29,880
something and they're talking to

1338
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:30,680
somebody

1339
01:00:36,289 --> 01:00:34,559
uh it is spooky uh since you got since

1340
01:00:39,710 --> 01:00:36,299
Vince has got the Christmas cards up

1341
01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:39,720
there Mothman asked what is Sam's

1342
01:00:45,410 --> 01:00:42,240
favorite Christmas tradition

1343
01:00:46,730 --> 01:00:45,420
wow that is a good question what a great

1344
01:00:51,049 --> 01:00:46,740
question

1345
01:00:51,059 --> 01:00:53,569
um

1346
01:01:01,370 --> 01:00:55,970
honestly

1347
01:01:06,289 --> 01:01:02,809
I would always

1348
01:01:09,770 --> 01:01:06,299
I think for the last 20 plus years

1349
01:01:11,809 --> 01:01:09,780
um I I spend New Year's Eve at uh one of

1350
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:11,819
my friends house and it used to be at

1351
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:14,160
their parents house

1352
01:01:18,530 --> 01:01:15,839
um and

1353
01:01:21,710 --> 01:01:18,540
they have a tradition where

1354
01:01:25,250 --> 01:01:21,720
their dad would always give me a lump of

1355
01:01:27,049 --> 01:01:25,260
coal and some coins

1356
01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:27,059
um and some other things you know

1357
01:01:30,170 --> 01:01:28,740
wrapped up in a clock

1358
01:01:33,770 --> 01:01:30,180
and

1359
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:33,780
I would always be told to sort of go out

1360
01:01:37,309 --> 01:01:35,760
the back and walk around the building

1361
01:01:39,470 --> 01:01:37,319
and knock on the front door and they

1362
01:01:41,930 --> 01:01:39,480
would let me back in so that I was the

1363
01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:41,940
new uh the first person of the new year

1364
01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:44,040
to enter the house bringing you know

1365
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:46,200
good luck and good charm and that was

1366
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:48,720
always really you know really an honor

1367
01:01:52,910 --> 01:01:51,599
to be asked to do that every year and

1368
01:01:55,789 --> 01:01:52,920
I've known these people since I was 10

1369
01:01:58,130 --> 01:01:55,799
years old so you know 34 years at the

1370
01:02:01,490 --> 01:01:58,140
moment and I did that for the last 20

1371
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:01,500
years they've asked me to bring in the

1372
01:02:03,589 --> 01:02:02,640
cold

1373
01:02:05,210 --> 01:02:03,599
um

1374
01:02:08,510 --> 01:02:05,220
for the new year so that's a that's a

1375
01:02:10,130 --> 01:02:08,520
favorite tradition but um I think just

1376
01:02:11,630 --> 01:02:10,140
being with friends and family in general

1377
01:02:13,609 --> 01:02:11,640
is is

1378
01:02:17,089 --> 01:02:13,619
the greatest

1379
01:02:19,309 --> 01:02:17,099
tradition that I always look forward to

1380
01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:19,319
and I treasure it because not everybody

1381
01:02:25,069 --> 01:02:22,319
has that and I think it's really

1382
01:02:26,990 --> 01:02:25,079
important as a tradition to make sure

1383
01:02:28,970 --> 01:02:27,000
that you reach out to as many people as

1384
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:28,980
you possibly can whether you know

1385
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:30,960
they're weird people or not

1386
01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:32,400
um to just make sure that people

1387
01:02:36,049 --> 01:02:34,260
remember they're not alone

1388
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:36,059
because even if you're on your own

1389
01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:38,880
you're never alone

1390
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:41,040
um and I think that's the tradition that

1391
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:43,680
should really be reinforced and reminded

1392
01:02:49,549 --> 01:02:45,119
especially

1393
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:49,559
at uh the darkest time of the year

1394
01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:51,119
wow

1395
01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:54,000
you know I um

1396
01:03:01,069 --> 01:02:57,540
the one the one Christmas tradition and

1397
01:03:04,849 --> 01:03:01,079
I don't don't celebrate it but it's from

1398
01:03:06,410 --> 01:03:04,859
uh my family who my family was from

1399
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:06,420
Switzerland

1400
01:03:11,630 --> 01:03:08,240
yeah

1401
01:03:13,250 --> 01:03:11,640
the grampus tradition

1402
01:03:16,490 --> 01:03:13,260
I've been there twice

1403
01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:16,500
you have yeah I've never been there I I

1404
01:03:22,370 --> 01:03:19,920
would love to go there but the um you

1405
01:03:25,490 --> 01:03:22,380
know uh several different countries in

1406
01:03:26,030 --> 01:03:25,500
in Europe celebrate different things

1407
01:03:28,849 --> 01:03:26,040
um

1408
01:03:31,970 --> 01:03:28,859
but the Krampus thing and then with

1409
01:03:34,010 --> 01:03:31,980
these work deep yet and the Black Pete

1410
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:34,020
thing and I wrote about it not long ago

1411
01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:36,720
that that whole thing I don't want to I

1412
01:03:40,490 --> 01:03:38,940
don't necessarily understand it and why

1413
01:03:42,349 --> 01:03:40,500
it was ever

1414
01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:42,359
heart

1415
01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:47,400
of a tradition related to Christmas but

1416
01:03:52,430 --> 01:03:50,400
you know I in you know I something I

1417
01:03:54,349 --> 01:03:52,440
never grew up with but I found out about

1418
01:03:58,609 --> 01:03:54,359
later on

1419
01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:58,619
and uh it's bizarre but I you I see that

1420
01:04:03,049 --> 01:04:00,960
you have you have actually done some

1421
01:04:07,549 --> 01:04:03,059
Krampus drawings

1422
01:04:10,190 --> 01:04:07,559
uh interpretations and Center Claus and

1423
01:04:11,870 --> 01:04:10,200
the the different interpretations of

1424
01:04:13,789 --> 01:04:11,880
Santa Claus

1425
01:04:17,089 --> 01:04:13,799
uh I don't know if you've done a black

1426
01:04:18,829 --> 01:04:17,099
Pete but you know that whole thing

1427
01:04:21,890 --> 01:04:18,839
I don't know I don't know what to think

1428
01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:21,900
about it but it fascinates me yeah it's

1429
01:04:27,170 --> 01:04:24,720
it's a funny one because I don't think

1430
01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:27,180
people realize

1431
01:04:37,849 --> 01:04:32,640
um just just how much uh Christmas has

1432
01:04:39,650 --> 01:04:37,859
been taken and reworked from the uh what

1433
01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:39,660
you could call the healings

1434
01:04:43,730 --> 01:04:40,559
um you know people would say that

1435
01:04:45,410 --> 01:04:43,740
Heathen is an insulting word but it's uh

1436
01:04:47,089 --> 01:04:45,420
it's just in some circles it's a

1437
01:04:49,370 --> 01:04:47,099
preferred term

1438
01:04:51,650 --> 01:04:49,380
um and the word Pagan is in fact the

1439
01:04:54,650 --> 01:04:51,660
insult because it would be the the

1440
01:04:57,230 --> 01:04:54,660
Christians who would refer to the the

1441
01:04:58,970 --> 01:04:57,240
Wilder people or the traditional pagans

1442
01:05:00,829 --> 01:04:58,980
or the what they would prefer to be

1443
01:05:02,390 --> 01:05:00,839
called the the heathens that lived on

1444
01:05:04,970 --> 01:05:02,400
the heath in the mountains in the

1445
01:05:07,190 --> 01:05:04,980
forests in worship the nature Gods the

1446
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:07,200
original people of England and Europe

1447
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:10,079
and the northern regions and so when

1448
01:05:17,569 --> 01:05:13,520
Christians came in in order to win over

1449
01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:17,579
these you know tribes and convert them

1450
01:05:21,410 --> 01:05:19,200
to Christianity what they would do is

1451
01:05:25,010 --> 01:05:21,420
they would steal some of these

1452
01:05:27,289 --> 01:05:25,020
characters and turn them into Saints and

1453
01:05:31,849 --> 01:05:27,299
so you have a lot of

1454
01:05:34,730 --> 01:05:31,859
um Animal Man God's uh deities and

1455
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:34,740
various spirits that Christianity would

1456
01:05:40,270 --> 01:05:38,160
deem as uh demons or they would paint

1457
01:05:43,069 --> 01:05:40,280
their own demons in the characteristics

1458
01:05:44,990 --> 01:05:43,079
of a heathen God

1459
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:45,000
so that people would then say oh well

1460
01:05:49,370 --> 01:05:47,520
that's evil when really it wasn't at all

1461
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:49,380
it was completely the opposite you know

1462
01:05:53,089 --> 01:05:51,599
you have sun worshipers and and winter

1463
01:05:55,010 --> 01:05:53,099
worshipers and a lot of the old

1464
01:05:58,130 --> 01:05:55,020
traditions were

1465
01:06:00,170 --> 01:05:58,140
there were warnings for people to again

1466
01:06:02,329 --> 01:06:00,180
look after each other in the darkest

1467
01:06:04,010 --> 01:06:02,339
time of the year there was always a

1468
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,020
tradition to sort of make sure that the

1469
01:06:08,990 --> 01:06:06,480
children had enough clothes

1470
01:06:11,690 --> 01:06:09,000
um or that uh they didn't wander off

1471
01:06:13,490 --> 01:06:11,700
into the woods otherwise a giant hairy

1472
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:13,500
monster would get them and back in those

1473
01:06:18,890 --> 01:06:15,359
days there really were giant hairy

1474
01:06:21,230 --> 01:06:18,900
monsters there were bears and wolves all

1475
01:06:24,109 --> 01:06:21,240
over Europe and England

1476
01:06:26,029 --> 01:06:24,119
um you know those those uh fossilized

1477
01:06:28,849 --> 01:06:26,039
remains of giant polar bears in London

1478
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:28,859
you know you go back far enough to the

1479
01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:31,200
tribes way before the Roman Empire and

1480
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:33,599
there were people who lived alongside

1481
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:36,480
monsters and so you had to really create

1482
01:06:41,390 --> 01:06:38,880
these deities and these Gods to protect

1483
01:06:43,069 --> 01:06:41,400
people and unfortunately over the

1484
01:06:43,730 --> 01:06:43,079
centuries

1485
01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:43,740
um

1486
01:06:51,170 --> 01:06:47,359
as Christianity spread throughout Europe

1487
01:06:53,630 --> 01:06:51,180
again they adopted and stole a lot of

1488
01:06:58,370 --> 01:06:53,640
these characters and twisted them and

1489
01:07:02,750 --> 01:06:58,380
Saint Nicholas who has various Origins

1490
01:07:06,049 --> 01:07:02,760
um has Krampus the great claw the son of

1491
01:07:07,549 --> 01:07:06,059
Hell Norwegian God is Is His companion

1492
01:07:10,130 --> 01:07:07,559
to

1493
01:07:12,950 --> 01:07:10,140
punish all the naughty children and they

1494
01:07:14,750 --> 01:07:12,960
became a Christian tradition

1495
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:14,760
still quite distillate across various

1496
01:07:18,410 --> 01:07:16,799
parts of Europe yeah well that's become

1497
01:07:20,690 --> 01:07:18,420
popular in America there's all kinds of

1498
01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:20,700
groups doing it as well absolutely

1499
01:07:26,990 --> 01:07:22,740
um I've been in a parade and I've been

1500
01:07:28,970 --> 01:07:27,000
beaten by a switch and it's painful

1501
01:07:32,029 --> 01:07:28,980
um you know I think I go back to Chad

1502
01:07:34,490 --> 01:07:32,039
Lewis he sends me a Christmas card every

1503
01:07:37,130 --> 01:07:34,500
year and it's got something to do with

1504
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:37,140
Krampus every every time he's really

1505
01:07:44,809 --> 01:07:41,280
into the Krampus thing so uh yeah it is

1506
01:07:48,349 --> 01:07:44,819
yeah you know I'm it's I'm obsessed with

1507
01:07:49,849 --> 01:07:48,359
British history I really am uh I I you

1508
01:07:51,230 --> 01:07:49,859
know it's something that has fascinated

1509
01:07:53,690 --> 01:07:51,240
for a long time

1510
01:07:56,930 --> 01:07:53,700
but when when you start going back into

1511
01:07:59,870 --> 01:07:56,940
it you know you go well pre even back as

1512
01:08:02,270 --> 01:07:59,880
far as the pre-room and error uh with

1513
01:08:05,690 --> 01:08:02,280
the picks and such and you know

1514
01:08:08,329 --> 01:08:05,700
you start to see the formation of a lot

1515
01:08:11,690 --> 01:08:08,339
of the the lore

1516
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:11,700
um and uh you know here in the United

1517
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:14,400
States our history is is well our

1518
01:08:18,370 --> 01:08:16,799
relative history is no more than four or

1519
01:08:22,490 --> 01:08:18,380
five hundred years old

1520
01:08:24,530 --> 01:08:22,500
uh yeah and but we need to go back and

1521
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,540
look at British history or European

1522
01:08:30,110 --> 01:08:27,120
history it's like there's just so much

1523
01:08:33,709 --> 01:08:30,120
there and that's that's what fascinates

1524
01:08:37,070 --> 01:08:33,719
me that something always pops up

1525
01:08:39,530 --> 01:08:37,080
that I I get involved with and I want to

1526
01:08:42,229 --> 01:08:39,540
look into it further and there there

1527
01:08:44,090 --> 01:08:42,239
seems to be some relativity between what

1528
01:08:46,189 --> 01:08:44,100
has happened back then and a lot of

1529
01:08:48,890 --> 01:08:46,199
things that happen now

1530
01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:48,900
oh yeah yeah I mean if you look at how

1531
01:08:52,849 --> 01:08:51,000
things have evolved and and as I say

1532
01:08:54,169 --> 01:08:52,859
it's becoming more and more popular in

1533
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:54,179
North America

1534
01:09:00,590 --> 01:08:57,120
um and in this Modern Age the the

1535
01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:00,600
Revival of the the old religions

1536
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:04,020
um and not so much a religious sense of

1537
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:07,199
of worship but a fascination with

1538
01:09:12,289 --> 01:09:09,359
different characters and creatures and

1539
01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:12,299
styles and behaviors and and the real

1540
01:09:16,370 --> 01:09:14,160
old fantasy world because if you think

1541
01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:16,380
of things like Lord of the Rings all of

1542
01:09:21,470 --> 01:09:18,839
a sudden you can you can make that real

1543
01:09:24,530 --> 01:09:21,480
you can live it and become part of a

1544
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:24,540
fantasy world with monsters as we used

1545
01:09:30,829 --> 01:09:27,839
to do or 100 for real

1546
01:09:33,229 --> 01:09:30,839
um and Santa Claus himself I mean really

1547
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:33,239
he was only invented 200 years ago it's

1548
01:09:37,610 --> 01:09:35,279
not very limited you know it's a couple

1549
01:09:40,249 --> 01:09:37,620
of generations ago there was no Santa

1550
01:09:42,530 --> 01:09:40,259
Claus it didn't exist and now we have

1551
01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:42,540
about 50 different versions of him that

1552
01:09:47,570 --> 01:09:44,880
are major ones and many many more that

1553
01:09:49,309 --> 01:09:47,580
are sort of slay variations

1554
01:09:52,669 --> 01:09:49,319
um you know you mentioned Santa Claus

1555
01:09:54,590 --> 01:09:52,679
and sword Pizza over in Holland

1556
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:54,600
um you have Deb morrows in Russia who's

1557
01:09:59,390 --> 01:09:57,360
a balloon Center you know there's so

1558
01:10:03,169 --> 01:09:59,400
many different versions of them

1559
01:10:06,650 --> 01:10:03,179
um and some refer to them as the terror

1560
01:10:08,330 --> 01:10:06,660
men where they would uh the Bell snipper

1561
01:10:10,490 --> 01:10:08,340
would throw nuts down onto the ground in

1562
01:10:12,410 --> 01:10:10,500
sweets and candy and if any children

1563
01:10:14,990 --> 01:10:12,420
sort of dived onto the ground to grab

1564
01:10:17,689 --> 01:10:15,000
them you'd beat them for being greedy

1565
01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:17,699
you know it was almost like a tour so

1566
01:10:23,050 --> 01:10:20,520
you suddenly learned to behave back then

1567
01:10:26,209 --> 01:10:23,060
um that they don't do that these days

1568
01:10:28,570 --> 01:10:26,219
well yeah

1569
01:10:31,370 --> 01:10:28,580
um I I got one last question for you

1570
01:10:33,890 --> 01:10:31,380
what is your favorite Cryptid

1571
01:10:36,290 --> 01:10:33,900
there's the question wow

1572
01:10:40,430 --> 01:10:36,300
um I think one of the most fascinating

1573
01:10:41,689 --> 01:10:40,440
ones which is such a mixed bag

1574
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:41,699
of

1575
01:10:46,490 --> 01:10:42,480
um

1576
01:10:47,930 --> 01:10:46,500
what the hell's going on uh I mean I

1577
01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:47,940
could probably list about 10 different

1578
01:10:52,729 --> 01:10:50,280
Cryptids you know I have I have a long

1579
01:10:56,270 --> 01:10:52,739
list of I think it's around close to 600

1580
01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:56,280
different you know unknown monsters

1581
01:11:01,490 --> 01:10:59,280
animals whatever term Cryptid as these

1582
01:11:03,229 --> 01:11:01,500
days that I'm working on as an artist So

1583
01:11:04,910 --> 01:11:03,239
eventually put a book together so it's

1584
01:11:08,510 --> 01:11:04,920
hard to pick one but I think the Jersey

1585
01:11:10,669 --> 01:11:08,520
Devil is the most interesting because it

1586
01:11:14,330 --> 01:11:10,679
comes from a place of

1587
01:11:18,890 --> 01:11:14,340
um Sideshow trickery and lies

1588
01:11:21,530 --> 01:11:18,900
um scams and also folklore witchcraft

1589
01:11:23,689 --> 01:11:21,540
um stigma all these kind of things that

1590
01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:23,699
are thrown around to building you kind

1591
01:11:27,229 --> 01:11:25,679
of got it all doesn't it yeah it's just

1592
01:11:28,669 --> 01:11:27,239
a mixed creature and there's so many

1593
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:28,679
different descriptions of what it looks

1594
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:30,719
like even today people describe seeing

1595
01:11:33,890 --> 01:11:31,920
it

1596
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:33,900
um but I think

1597
01:11:38,209 --> 01:11:36,239
you know I love the lizard man that's

1598
01:11:40,490 --> 01:11:38,219
another one that's strange is it a big

1599
01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:40,500
fit wearing an alligator suit or is it a

1600
01:11:46,189 --> 01:11:43,679
human type reptile dinosaur is it an

1601
01:11:48,350 --> 01:11:46,199
alien who knows

1602
01:11:51,290 --> 01:11:48,360
um I think it's I think it's fascinating

1603
01:11:53,270 --> 01:11:51,300
that we have this whole spectrum of the

1604
01:11:56,209 --> 01:11:53,280
word corrupted has evolved as well where

1605
01:11:58,729 --> 01:11:56,219
it's not so much the Bernard hugelman's

1606
01:12:01,370 --> 01:11:58,739
version which was originally just the

1607
01:12:04,729 --> 01:12:01,380
study of unknown animals or undiscovered

1608
01:12:07,790 --> 01:12:04,739
unclassified animal species now it's

1609
01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:07,800
encrypted seems to be a catch-all for

1610
01:12:11,390 --> 01:12:09,900
anything that's unknown

1611
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:11,400
um anything that's a monster that's

1612
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:12,960
strange and weird which includes

1613
01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:16,080
humanoids is now suddenly under the

1614
01:12:19,550 --> 01:12:18,239
umbrella term of Cryptid which some

1615
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:19,560
people don't like

1616
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:20,880
um and I used to be kind of a

1617
01:12:25,850 --> 01:12:23,280
traditionalist where I prefer it to be

1618
01:12:27,709 --> 01:12:25,860
about animals but now you have to sort

1619
01:12:30,050 --> 01:12:27,719
of really open it up because it's just

1620
01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:30,060
you know the cat's out of the bag and

1621
01:12:35,689 --> 01:12:33,120
the horses have bolted and encrypted is

1622
01:12:38,570 --> 01:12:35,699
just a term used for everything now

1623
01:12:40,010 --> 01:12:38,580
so yeah yeah it is a fairly new term I

1624
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:40,020
mean it's something that I've really

1625
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:42,719
only used in the past decade or so yeah

1626
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:44,640
I probably use it more than I need to

1627
01:12:50,090 --> 01:12:48,239
use it but I do use it and uh it

1628
01:12:53,570 --> 01:12:50,100
encompasses a lot of different things

1629
01:12:55,490 --> 01:12:53,580
you know uh like you said humanoids well

1630
01:12:57,770 --> 01:12:55,500
that falls under crypted I mean you

1631
01:13:00,649 --> 01:12:57,780
don't you don't necessarily want to say

1632
01:13:01,850 --> 01:13:00,659
it's encrypted but you know what is

1633
01:13:04,850 --> 01:13:01,860
encrypted I mean it's just something

1634
01:13:06,649 --> 01:13:04,860
that science hasn't recognized and uh of

1635
01:13:09,649 --> 01:13:06,659
course everything we deal with is

1636
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:09,659
probably encrypted because we deal with

1637
01:13:13,250 --> 01:13:12,000
so many things that so many people just

1638
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:13,260
don't

1639
01:13:16,850 --> 01:13:14,880
feel real

1640
01:13:19,610 --> 01:13:16,860
but of course some of us have had

1641
01:13:23,870 --> 01:13:19,620
encounters and have had experiences that

1642
01:13:25,250 --> 01:13:23,880
you know make what we do seem relative

1643
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:25,260
absolutely

1644
01:13:32,330 --> 01:13:28,080
well go ahead

1645
01:13:35,209 --> 01:13:32,340
well sold oh thank you uh so Sam before

1646
01:13:36,770 --> 01:13:35,219
we go I'd like for you to tell the folks

1647
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:36,780
how they can get a hold of you go to

1648
01:13:41,870 --> 01:13:39,360
your website what you got coming up and

1649
01:13:44,510 --> 01:13:41,880
you always are working on something and

1650
01:13:48,890 --> 01:13:44,520
I I suggest people go to your YouTube

1651
01:13:52,490 --> 01:13:48,900
site and watch you create some of your

1652
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work live or you know in real time it's

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it's fascinating

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oh yeah yeah um well you can find all of

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the links to uh my store all the social

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01:14:05,209 --> 01:14:03,239
media links Twitter Instagram come and

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01:14:07,970 --> 01:14:05,219
say Hello uh Facebook's there of course

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and YouTube yes and I have a patreon as

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well where I'll draw a live

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01:14:16,490 --> 01:14:14,040
um every Wednesday uh and you can just

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sort of hang out and chat while I ramble

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01:14:20,570 --> 01:14:19,380
on about nonsense and draw monsters so

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01:14:22,189 --> 01:14:20,580
that's always good to come and hang out

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and that's yeah that's four times a

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month I'll do that if not more

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um so yeah Mr samsurance.com Mr as in

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m-a-s-t-e-r

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Sam Sharon

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s-h-e-a-r-o-n.com and we'll find

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01:14:37,490 --> 01:14:35,640
everything there so yeah come and say

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hello

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01:14:42,290 --> 01:14:40,080
well Sam thanks for coming on I I've

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01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:42,300
always been fascinated with with what

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01:14:46,250 --> 01:14:43,199
you do

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uh your interpretations just I you know

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01:14:52,610 --> 01:14:50,100
it's great I mean I love it so uh I I

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01:14:54,830 --> 01:14:52,620
will be putting more up on the walls I'm

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01:14:56,450 --> 01:14:54,840
starting to get a gallery now

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so uh

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you take care and uh I'm quite sure

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01:15:02,930 --> 01:15:00,480
we're gonna have you back on soon

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that'll be great have a great uh

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01:15:08,030 --> 01:15:04,679
Christmas winter season whatever you

1684
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:08,040
celebrate and um everybody look after

1685
01:15:12,370 --> 01:15:10,560
each other and reach out to people even

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01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:12,380
if you've fallen out with them say hello

1687
01:15:21,410 --> 01:15:20,149
now if you have a citing or a counter

1688
01:15:23,870 --> 01:15:21,420
report that you would like to be

1689
01:15:26,990 --> 01:15:23,880
considered for personal reports show or

1690
01:15:29,330 --> 01:15:27,000
even on the Family's blog feel free to

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01:15:31,850 --> 01:15:29,340
forward to my email lawn stricklerfans

1692
01:15:34,970 --> 01:15:31,860
and monsters.com

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01:15:37,090 --> 01:15:34,980
um I want to again thank Sam Sharon Mr

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01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:37,100
Sam Sharon for joining me this evening

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01:15:42,050 --> 01:15:40,080
and thanks decent all you for watching

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01:15:44,090 --> 01:15:42,060
and chatting we always have a great

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01:15:46,729 --> 01:15:44,100
group here in the chat so if you ever

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01:15:48,830 --> 01:15:46,739
watch the show live please consider

1699
01:15:52,430 --> 01:15:48,840
coming on to the chat we have a great

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01:15:56,450 --> 01:15:52,440
bunch of people to come on there uh so

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01:15:58,189 --> 01:15:56,460
I guess next well next Wednesday I'm

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01:15:59,570 --> 01:15:58,199
going to try to do a live personal

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01:16:01,790 --> 01:15:59,580
reports

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01:16:04,370 --> 01:16:01,800
and then Friday

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01:16:07,010 --> 01:16:04,380
we're going to have an ailing abduction

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01:16:09,229 --> 01:16:07,020
show a round table

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01:16:11,570 --> 01:16:09,239
and uh that should be quite interesting

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01:16:13,729 --> 01:16:11,580
we I don't know if we have people fully

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01:16:15,649 --> 01:16:13,739
booked yet but that's what the subject

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01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:15,659
is going to be

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01:16:21,970 --> 01:16:18,960
and make sure you stay tuned for

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01:16:25,610 --> 01:16:21,980
Bernadette McDaniel's a paranormal life

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01:16:28,850 --> 01:16:25,620
which her guest is going to be me

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01:16:32,810 --> 01:16:28,860
so that's at 11 o'clock P.M Eastern Time

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01:16:35,810 --> 01:16:32,820
8 o'clock P.M uh Pacific time

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01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:35,820
and of course next Wednesday night

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um

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uh Vincent Richardson's V show we just

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01:16:44,750 --> 01:16:41,840
had the premiere this past Wednesday

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01:16:46,610 --> 01:16:44,760
he'll be start he'll be uh he'll be on

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01:16:49,970 --> 01:16:46,620
there again I don't know who his guest

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01:16:54,590 --> 01:16:49,980
is I think I do know but uh I think it's

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01:16:56,090 --> 01:16:54,600
Thomas fariaro possibly but anyway it

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01:16:59,510 --> 01:16:56,100
we'll have that up we'll have all the

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01:17:01,189 --> 01:16:59,520
information up and uh I'll be posting it

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01:17:04,010 --> 01:17:01,199
up on the blog and I'll be posting on

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Facebook and other places so until then

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stay healthy and have a safe enjoyable

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